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Advice for Data Breach Victims, Portable Monitors and Travel Cameras!

EFTM Podcast | Published: September 1, 2026 | Host: Trevor Long

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[00:01:08] Trevor Long: Great to have your company. Welcome to September, folks. Jesus. Anyway, let's, let's not labor the point, but it is September and, uh, it's great to have your company. It's, um, trying to work out why my speakers are still playing even though this little screen in front of me said it was muted. Uh, I'm recording this in the morning, um, because I've got a work experience kid at the office. I'm obviously recording this last week, folks, you know that. And I don't know, I just, what I, I just, my normal routine is not normal. I fiddle ass around a lot. I, you know, it's actually really good having someone here because it made me kind of focus. I am hoping today when he's here to just get a bunch of the magazine started because I've really got to start writing that. But it's been great. He helped me edit some videos yesterday, and he's got a task today. If you see a video in the last few days on the EFTM feed about Flippsy, my mate Flippsy driving some cars in New Zealand and BMWs sliding around in ice, he edited that. So that's my brief, was just have fun with it, make it look cool, and don't make Flippsy look like an idiot, because Flippsy didn't get much time to record a video, so he just did 25 seconds and I wanted to turn into a minute video. So I don't know, we'll see how Benny did on that one when it gets published. So, um, we won't know until then. Um, we got plenty of calls to get through shortly. We're going to talk home security, uh, monitors, uh, travel and data breaches. We've got plenty, plenty coming up, plenty to, plenty to talk about. So all of that ahead on this edition of, uh, EFTM podcast. Um, and yeah, basically, uh, I'm going to take a little, little holiday after this. I know the iPhone's being announced, but, um, you'll hear about that, uh, with Stephen and I next week on Two Blokes Talking Tech. Uh, but yeah, I'm gonna have a little break with the family. Uh, I'll still be, uh, dabbling in my emails but not really working. I'll just, you know, at night after a long day of family stuff, you kind of just blah. And so actually just sitting on the laptop for 20 minutes going archive archive, archive emails. Pretty cool. My out of office is going to be pretty extreme, I'll be honest. It's going to be, you know what, consider this email deleted because I'm going to be away. If it's really, really important and you really think you know me well, you know how to contact me. Uh, and see, the thing is, uh, Daniel, Scott, and Rob, uh, have got access to publish whatever they need and whatever they want on the EFTM website, so they'll do that. So basically, once the iPhone is announced and you've read what I've got to say on that, seen what I've got to say on that, I will become a ghost until October. That's the plan content-wise. We'll see. But I appreciate your support through, uh, through the last 9 months. It's been huge. We've had a big year. It's been a great start to the year, really pumped, which includes the awesome, uh, EFTM giveaways. We've had some absolute crackers. My current rolling total, considering a couple of things that haven't yet been announced, so they're not actually in the app yet, we are at $38,000 worth of giveaways this year. $38,000 worth of giveaways. So cool. So cool. And by the way, I'm just gonna do a quick look here. At least $8,000 of that is still to come. Still to come, hasn't even been announced yet. So right now there is still in the app your chance to win. We're running this over 2 weeks. It's the only prize— excuse me, prize this year we've run over 2 weeks— a Hisense 65-inch UR8 TV. That's an RGB TV. That's the, that's the absolute latest technology from Hisense. and you could win that next week, or actually at the end of this week. You could win that in the EFTM app. All you got to do is download the EFTM app and click a button. So easy, so, so easy. A massive prize, an awesome prize to win. A, uh, a 65-inch UR8 Hisense TV could be yours just by downloading the EFTM app and click in the win tab. My goodness me. And then week after week after week over the coming weeks, we've got many more to give away. So bring it on, folks. I'm gonna fill— I gotta fill one little gap, and then I'll be able to populate the app through to mid-October. And then I've got some cool stuff in October, and then we'll push it through maybe a few weeks into November. And then plan for the magazine, by the way, is to post it out around November 17th. That's the plan. So just ahead of Black Friday, and then anyone that buys items from The Gamesman over Black Friday will receive a copy of the magazine over that period. So yeah, that's the plan. That's, that's what I'm working towards. Deadlines, folks, deadlines. But we'll see how we go. So thank you for your support this year. It's been awesome. I'm just going to take a little break with the family., and, uh, and then I'll be back refreshed and ready for the end of the year into CES because it gets real busy as we round out the year. Uh, thanks for listening, thanks for downloading, and yeah, tune in and subscribe to the Two Blokes Talking Tech podcast feed so you will get all the latest from the iPhone event in the week ahead. Uh, until then, let's take your calls here on the EFTM podcast. Send us a text. Thanks to Vodafone, 0477 657 657.

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Andrew — Kelco home security cameras

[00:07:21] Andrew: G'day, how you doing, Trev?

[00:07:22] Trevor Long: Mate, really good. What can I do for you?

[00:07:24] Andrew: I'm just looking at, uh, home security systems at the moment and was just wondering what your opinion was of, uh, one that I'd seen online, uh, for the Kelco Security Systems.

[00:07:37] Trevor Long: I think I've seen these guys pop up on social media. Yeah, they're like an Aussie brand, Aussie company, aren't they? I think it might have been a family, Aussie family.

[00:07:47] Andrew: Yes, that's right. They say from Brisbane or that area.

[00:07:50] Trevor Long: So look, let me be very clear, I've not tested their products, I've not used their products, and so I can't vouch for them. But I could give you the hesitation that I would have initially, and I'm sure they're lovely people. But here, here's how a company like this works. You can go to big trade shows in, in China and Asia, Hong Kong and different places, and, and see a bunch of cool products and do a deal to brand them with your own name on them and stuff like that, and essentially sell them in this market. And they might have an app, but you can, you can co-brand as well. These guys didn't create these cameras, and if they did, okay, I apologize, but I doubt it. I doubt they created these cameras in any way, shape, or form. These are essentially off-the-shelf cameras, white-labeled for Australia under this brand. And you know what, they offer some unbelievable big packs. You know, you're talking— it's hard to, it's hard to not consider them because they've got like a— I'm looking at their website, they've got a 10-camera with solar panel and memory cards for $500— yeah, sorry, $5,700. And they reckon it's a saving of, you know, $1,000. Now, 10 cameras at $5,700, so you're paying, you're You know, what's that, $50, $500 bucks camera? No, $57 bucks per camera. It's, you know, it's decent money. It's not in the realms you'd pay, you'd pay a stack more if you were buying UniDen or Arlo or something like that, right? That's, that's their, that's their angle. Now they're $570 bucks per camera. That's, it's a lot of money per camera when you consider what you can get from a a Uniden or someone like that at your local retail store. And the reason I would personally, with no disrespect to this family who are doing their best to create a business and all that kind of stuff, is think of the big brands— Uniden, Arlo, what else is there, Eufy, you know, go to JB Hi-Fi and have a look at the brands there. Now those brands are under a lot greater scrutiny, and that is a good thing. So it means that security on the back end is very strong. And I'm— what I mean by security is not security at your home, but security for who can get into your cameras. How secure are the cameras? Um, you know, is this— is their firmware updated regularly for cyber attacks? Look, there's just so many things. The app itself, uh, you know, how secure is it? And who else can see your login? And I— there's so many questions that I would have for them that they've probably got pretty good stock answers for, but in the end, they're not building the app all the hardware, and that worries me a touch. And you know, when, when you go back to them because they're essentially a family Aussie business, sure, they'll support you and they've got warranty and all those things. And they, they claim excellent response times, which is— I love the fact that on their website they're listing response times.

[00:10:42] Andrew: Yeah.

[00:10:42] Trevor Long: But you know, you have any other problem with the other guys, you take it back to JB's, they just give you a refund. You, you, there's a lot more scrutiny on a, on a company that sold millions of cameras. There's a lot more scrutiny essentially over them globally. But mate, I totally get it. There is some pretty epic value there. I mean, I can look at these cameras and go, I get it. But I just, mate, who's buying 10 cameras? Like, that's almost—

[00:11:09] Andrew: Yeah, that's it.

[00:11:10] Trevor Long: That's, mate, I don't have 10 cameras and I've got all the brands, right? You know, a 3 or 4 camera kit is pretty much all you need. And their basic little ones, not their solar ones, You know, they're the super cheap ones, but they're, you know, 6-camera kits, $2,500. I'm pretty sure at JB's you'll find something broadly decent in a strong brand that, you know, might be comparable.

[00:11:38] Trevor Long: You won't—

[00:11:39] Trevor Long: maybe you won't get as many, but I think you'll get a brand that you've heard of and could trust a little more. TP-Link, Eufy, Swann. I mean, there's just— Ring through Amazon. There's And also feature-wise, sometimes when you get into this space, have you got cameras at all now?

[00:11:54] Andrew: Not at the moment. No, it's a new build. So we can just—

[00:11:58] Trevor Long: when you get into this space, it becomes a touch addictive. And look, some people— and one of the things you'll see, and they probably say it on their website somewhere, like no subscription ever or something like that. You see that a lot. But speak to people who have a Ring camera or an Arlo or one of the other ones. Who do pay for the subscription and you go, man, it's one of the best value things I have. So on my phone, because I've got an Arlo camera near the front of the house, you know, I get a notification that a certain person has parked, has come to my house, or a certain car is parked in my driveway. Very verbose notifications like a parcel has been left or there's a man at your door with a parcel. You don't get those things with a, you know, off-the-shelf, you know, camera, cheap camera from China. Essentially you get that from a company that's investing in software because most of what you want from a security security camera is actually not the camera, it's the software. What can the app tell me? I don't want the app running 24/7 because, mate, the batteries will go quickly even if they've got solar panels. I want an app that's smarter, knows when I'm home and when I want notifications and how those things are going to work. So if I was going to buy a Keldz, I'd buy like a very— like I'd buy one or two and test them stringently first, but they don't really That's my thing is they don't really want you to buy one or two. They want you to buy them out of their stock because they've bought a container load of these things. Respect to them. They've put their own money on the line and bought a container load of them. So they want to sell them. I don't have a problem if people buy them. I just want you to know what you're getting into. That's all. Yes. Okay. Plenty of options out there, mate. But enjoy the build, mate. You're putting in, you know, smarts and wiring, or are you going for Wi-Fi around the joint? How you planning it?

[00:13:43] Andrew: Uh, Wi-Fi around the place. Yeah, yeah.

[00:13:45] Trevor Long: So big TV. What's the biggest TV going to the new place?

[00:13:50] Andrew: At the moment I've got 75.

[00:13:51] Trevor Long: Come on, mate, what are we talking about?

[00:13:55] Andrew: 85 could go, um, very shortly.

[00:13:58] Trevor Long: So 100 inches on the wall of the lounge room. It's a new build. The missus isn't going to know where that expense has gone. It went in the— the cornice was more expensive in this room.

[00:14:10] Andrew: Oh, projector TV as well. That was what I was also thinking too.

[00:14:15] Trevor Long: Oh, look out. No, no, go, go, go 100-inch, mate. Go 100-inch. You won't look back.

[00:14:19] Andrew: Yeah, okay.

[00:14:20] Trevor Long: All right, very good. All right, buddy, good luck. Okay, thank you, mate.

[00:14:24] Andrew: Cheers.

[00:14:24] Trevor Long: No worries at all. Thanks for getting in touch. Um, look, I think I've— maybe it was KELD I've had a call about before, once before. But, um, that's not to say they're a bad product. At all. They're probably awesome. I just don't know how to quantify the long-term nature of it, and the software part of it is so much more important than resolution or field of view and a bunch of other things that get purported about, about cameras. I think some of the AI features coming to cameras today are far more valuable than the cameras themselves. Anyway, let me know what you think.

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[00:15:06] Trevor Long: Great to have you coming. Thanks for listening. Catherine's on the line.

Catherine — Origin Energy data breach fallout

[00:15:09] Catherine: Catherine, good morning. Good morning.

[00:15:11] Trevor Long: What can I do for you? Well, it's in relation to the Origin, whatever we call it, Origin Energy data breach.

[00:15:21] Catherine: Yes. Yes.

[00:15:22] Trevor Long: You got an email, did you?

[00:15:24] Catherine: Yes, I've had a couple. And the second one was unfortunately telling me that all my information had been released.

[00:15:33] Trevor Long: Who was that? Was that from Origin?

[00:15:35] Catherine: Yes. Yes.

[00:15:36] Trevor Long: I'm just now, I'm thinking, hang on a minute, what did I— did I get any notification of— because I'm an Origin customer at the business. So here we go, potential customer data security incident, but I didn't get any others. So does that mean you got secondary ones, which essentially means that you— they've told you what data was stolen?

[00:15:54] Catherine: Yes, it said, I'm writing to provide you with an update on your information that was accessed as part of the recent data security incident and its full name, email address, contact phone number, date of birth, supply address, billing address, last 4 digits of your credit card, and information about other contacts listed on your account. So it's everything about me.

[00:16:17] Trevor Long: Now, first and foremost, are you able to verify that that email is from Origin?

[00:16:22] Catherine: Well, it's noreply@originenergy.com.au.

[00:16:25] Trevor Long: Okay. No links or anything in it that's trying to get you to click?

[00:16:29] Catherine: No, no. And I didn't go anywhere.

[00:16:31] Trevor Long: It's interesting because the notification came from retail at Origin Energy. It came from a different address. I'm just looking. So I'm just having a quick look. For most of the approximately 900,000 affected customers, information accessed including some combination of the things that you just mentioned as well as the last 4 digits. For a smaller subset of customers, We've identified that they got your full bank account. That's 60 people. An ID document number, that's 100 people. And numbers associated with government concession scheme, that's 1,500, 15,000 people. So you weren't at the worst of it, it seems like. Okay.

[00:17:15] Catherine: It just felt like it.

[00:17:17] Trevor Long: Yeah, and it's a horrible feeling. Were you an Optus customer? Were you a Medibank customer? Were you a Latitude customer? Are you collecting them all? I hope not.

[00:17:27] Catherine: No, I was not.

[00:17:28] Trevor Long: Here's the thing.

[00:17:29] Catherine: I was after this. Yes.

[00:17:31] Trevor Long: And I guess your question is, what do we do now? Basically.

[00:17:35] Catherine: Well, since initiating contact with you, I did get an email from them offering the Equifax subscription.

[00:17:46] Trevor Long: Take it.

[00:17:47] Catherine: I did this morning. But then the other thing that came in this morning, which I think is This is— it's past information detected on the dark web, and it says it's from myidentity@norton.com.

[00:18:07] Trevor Long: Have you got a Norton subscription?

[00:18:09] Catherine: No.

[00:18:09] Trevor Long: Okay, well, that's scam. That's a spam scam.

[00:18:12] Catherine: Oh, okay. Because when, when I actually put into the web to check my identity, LifeLock, it did come up as a Norton thing.

[00:18:22] Trevor Long: No, it is. It's a genuine, it's a real thing. But what that email could be is what we call a spoof email. So it's what I could do in, if you gave me 25 minutes, I could probably set up an account and build an email that looked exactly like the email you got from Origin and was from noreply@origin.com.au. Like, it could come to you with that, and in it is just a single link that says, you know, we're offering you, you know, $100 rebate on your energy, click here. And then when you click here, what you see is a website that looks exactly like the Origin website, except when you put whatever information you put in there, you're sending to me. And so that's called phishing, it's called spoofing. And I would be— if you don't have a Norton subscription, then I'd be nervous about any emails they're sending. Okay, well, there may be some legitimacy to it. The thing is What you should assume is that all that information they've listed is available now to scammers.

[00:19:25] Catherine: Right.

[00:19:26] Trevor Long: So run me through it again. What have they got of you?

[00:19:29] Catherine: Let me just get back to it. They have— oh no, that's not the kitchen sink.

[00:19:38] Trevor Long: They don't have that.

[00:19:39] Catherine: We know that. Look, very nearly. Full name, email address. Contact phone number, date of birth, supply address and billing address, and the last 4 digits of the credit card. Okay, that actually could be okay though.

[00:19:54] Trevor Long: Look, that's actually not a bad thing. However, here's a couple of things you can do. Yes, uh, and you know what, weirdly, it's a fun thing to do. So pick it, pick it in a week where you've got a bit of time, ring your bank and ask for a new card. So you get a new card, so those 4 digits are irrelevant from now on, even though you need the other 12 digits, those 4 digits become— so you, like, it's, it's kind of about having one up on the scammer here. So you're taking back control of your information. You can't change the fact that they've got your name, your email, your phone number, and your date of birth, but you can take back that card number. So for example, thank you, if you've got a new card number, it'll have a different, um, 4 digits on the end. And do you use Apple Pay or Google Pay on your smartphone?

[00:20:41] Catherine: No, no, I don't use my smartphone to pay at all. And the only thing I use is PayPal.

[00:20:48] Trevor Long: Well, can I tell you that I would encourage— do you have an iPhone?

[00:20:52] Catherine: No, Samsung.

[00:20:53] Trevor Long: I would encourage you to use your Samsung phone for your credit cards. It's very secure. It's the safest way to pay.

[00:20:59] Catherine: Is it? Because I actually, I did enable that probably a couple of years back.

[00:21:05] Trevor Long: And here's what happens when you have a problem like this. You instantly get a new card. So I rang my bank— I've got 2 banks at different times— but I rang my bank the other day and said, I've got this account that doesn't have a card. Can I get a card issued? They issued a new card. So it took a week for it to come in the post, but that day it was in my wallet, my digital wallet, ready to use. If you have a— if you have your existing card, if they reissue that to you— so before you get the new card, add your current card to Samsung Wallet or your bank wallet, whatever it is on your phone. And then when they issue you a new card, it'll instantly be updated in your phone. So it's a really handy thing. So if you ever lose your card, it's a thing to know that the digital one gets updated quickly. But the reason it's critical is because if you get a scammer, so in 6 months or a year from now, you're in a vulnerable moment because you're just not paying attention to the world and you're just happy with life and you get a phone call that says, "Hi, I'm calling from XYZ. We just need to verify your identity." And you go, "Yeah, okay, fine." And they go, "And can you give me the…" last 4 digits, or we want to verify your identity with the last 4 digits of your bank.

[00:22:20] Catherine: Right.

[00:22:20] Trevor Long: They'll say the wrong number.

[00:22:22] Catherine: Right.

[00:22:23] Trevor Long: They won't know it.

[00:22:25] Catherine: I've got it.

[00:22:26] Trevor Long: Yes.

[00:22:27] Trevor Long: Good.

[00:22:27] Trevor Long: So you're taking back a bit of ownership. You can't change your date of birth. You can't change your email. You can't change your phone number. But what you should do is update your passwords. So a little bit of life admin. Let's get a new bank card, but let's also do some life admin and change all of our core passwords. So I want you to change the password of your email inbox. I want you to change the password of your bank. And then whatever those things that you use most are to communicate. So my mum, I would say Facebook, please change your Facebook password. But if you've got any other social media like Instagram, change those as well.

[00:22:58] Catherine: Right.

[00:22:59] Trevor Long: Because essentially now that they know, now that they know all this about you, so email, bank, and social media are the key things.

[00:23:06] Catherine: Okay.

[00:23:07] Trevor Long: Now that they know all this about you, you're likely to receive more spam that's attempting to get your information. It's trying to get you to— trick you. So you're going to get emails that say, "Hi Catherine," like they're going to be very personal. "Hey, it's your birthday coming up," you know, because they know that, and they're going to want to try and trick you. So, but what they've got is your old credit card number and they've got your old password. So who cares? They can trick you away.

[00:23:35] Catherine: Yes.

[00:23:36] Trevor Long: So take back a bit of control by looking at what they know about you and changing whatever is feasible. And I think that'll make you feel better and it's probably the right thing to do.

[00:23:47] Catherine: Okay, look, Trevor, that's invaluable information. Thank you.

[00:23:51] Trevor Long: My pleasure. Look, it's annoying, it's frustrating, but you know what? It's going to keep happening. I've got to break it to you.

[00:23:57] Catherine: Well, unfortunately it is, isn't it? And you know, I feel a bit of a dinosaur with some of this.

[00:24:03] Trevor Long: You're doing fine. One other thing I'd say to you, because you'll become an advocate for this in your friend group and whoever you hang around with, right? When you hear about things like digital ID, yes, say yes, it's a good thing. So if you haven't got it already, get the MyID app from the government. It's not about controlling you or digital currency or it's any of that rubbish that Malcolm Roberts goes on about. What it's about is meaning that, let's say in 2 years from now you want to change to a new telco. When you theoretically, when you sign up to that telco, you say my name's Catherine and you sign in with MyID, this app. And do you know what the telco gets a copy of? Nothing.

[00:24:46] Catherine: Right.

[00:24:46] Trevor Long: So if that telco gets hacked, they don't have any of your details on file other than your name. And that's why we want that.

[00:24:57] Catherine: Now, who's the digital MyID with?

[00:24:59] Trevor Long: It's called— it's with the government. It's a government app. It's run through like myGov. You'd have a myGov account where you log in to do your tax and things like that. It's off the back of that. And then you can use it to log into your myGov account securely and safely.

[00:25:15] Catherine: It's brilliant.

[00:25:16] Trevor Long: Brilliant.

[00:25:17] Catherine: Yes, myGov. I've just got a password at the moment.

[00:25:22] Trevor Long: Yes. So get yourself a myID. And again, it's a little— it's a fun little app that requires you to go through some hoops like putting in your passport and your driver's license to really verify who you are. But once you've done it, You are rock solid verified with that app from now on. And over time, more and more things will use that app to verify who you are.

[00:25:41] Catherine: Okay. All right. Thank you. All right.

[00:25:43] Trevor Long: Good luck.

[00:25:45] Catherine: Thank you very much. I really, really appreciate your knowledge.

[00:25:49] Trevor Long: No worries, Captain. That's what I'm here for.

[00:25:51] Catherine: Thanks, Trevor.

[00:25:52] Trevor Long: Cheers.

[00:25:53] Catherine: Bye.

[00:25:53] Trevor Long: No worries. You look— it's annoying. It's frustrating to be a victim of those kind of things. So hopefully Take back ownership with a couple of simple steps.

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[00:26:25] John: Hi, Trevor.

John — Underwater and travel cameras for Vanuatu and the Northern Lights

[00:26:25] John: How you going, mate?

[00:26:26] Trevor Long: What can I do for you?

[00:26:28] John: We're looking to do a little bit of travel over the next couple of months and we're looking—

[00:26:32] Trevor Long: where we go, man, where are we going? Let's live vicariously through you.

[00:26:36] John: First off, we're going to Vanuatu to do a little bit of snorkeling off the reefs. And then March next year, we're off to the Northern Lights in Norway and Finland.

[00:26:43] Trevor Long: Oh, you're extreme. See, we go to America and watch baseball. Here you are doing fancy things, man. That's awesome. I see. I'm not a beachgoer. But something about like the islands, like, oh, you know, my dream holiday is Maldives. I don't know, just that picturesque, like living on a, on a little shack, little shack above the water. I mean, it's awesome. Anyway, mate, I'll live vicariously through you, mate. What can I do for you?

[00:27:08] John: Okay, we're looking for an underwater camera, an outdoor camera. We're not— 4K is nice, but not mandatory, but we're just looking for something to go 5, 6 meters deep in the water. But we also wanted to do fairly well for the snow in the Arctic, etc.

[00:27:26] Trevor Long: When you say camera, what are you wanting to capture? What are you hoping to see at the end of this?

[00:27:31] John: At the end of it, we'd like to get like some little short videos and just photos. So, you know, be able to take something underwater. I'm not keen to put the iPhone into a pouch and take that below water. I think it's a little bit risky.

[00:27:44] Trevor Long: Yeah, sure.

[00:27:45] John: And my son had a GoPro 3, which we tried a little while ago. And I agree, it is quite old, but we just found it wasn't easy to use and it wasn't just a point and click and have the little view screen and everything else. So we've been doing a little bit of research.

[00:28:01] Trevor Long: GoPro 3 is very old.

[00:28:04] John: Correct.

[00:28:04] Trevor Long: I mean, that's legit. That's a— so I'm doing a segment when this goes to air, it would have been last week, but on Thursday this week as we talk on the Today Show where I've got I've got all the GoPros, or like, I've literally— it's a dream for you. So mate, your time Thursday morning, watch the Today Show, you'll see everything. But I'm trying to think how old the 3 is. 2012. That's a 14-year-old camera, mate. It didn't have a screen on the back, right? Every GoPro now has a screen on it. So there's two things in my mind. I want to talk about GoPro first. So the latest GoPro is the GoPro Hero 13. And mate, I mean, obviously it's 4K, it's, it's, it's more than 4K, it's all these different things. But in simple terms for you, it is much easier to use because there is a screen on the front and back. You can put it on a little handle, and so even while you're underwater, you could kind of take a selfie video or photo. Like, it's amazing what you could do with it. But also you could use it just to take photos. Look, is it, is it the, is it the camera I would choose to take photos on a family holiday? No. But is it the camera I would choose if I wanted just one thing for both photo and video, if that makes sense, right? Um, there's a single button on the side which is power, which you just press. Once it's on, you just press it to change between video and photo and time-lapse and different things. So very easy to switch between photo and video. Um, but the quality is unbelievable. And I would highly encourage, if you do get in the GoPro route, to play around for a month before you go away so that you really understand it. Because things like, um, they have a thing they can they call it the lens essentially, but the angle of view. You can do this kind of very linear or this very super wide, which has this kind of curved distortion to it. But, you know, it'll fit more in the shot. But for a more direct linear lens, which is not a physical lens, it's just a digital virtual thing, better for photos and more, you know, kind of momentary videos. But it's so easy to use. You can pair it with your smartphone to get the stuff off, or you can take the SD card out, put it on your laptop, whatever you like. Beautiful stuff. Like a really, really good investment for someone that does enjoy that stuff. However, mate, if I was going snorkeling off Vanuatu, where I'm expecting I'm gonna see beautiful fish and things like turtles, like what, is that what we expect? What do you see there?

[00:30:27] John: We're hoping to see. It's swimming with the sharks and the stingrays and everything else.

[00:30:32] Trevor Long: Here's what I would take without hesitation. I would take an Insta360 X6. It's their latest camera. It's $1,000. Yep. Um, but what you get on it is, is, is you get a little pole which extends. So it's 30 centimeter little handle, but it extends out to a like a meter and a half. And by the way, you can get 3-meter versions of these poles, which is insane. But anyway, just letting you know. Um, but here's how a 360 camera works. It's, it's got an 8K sensor on it, but you're not actually recording an 8K video that you would share anywhere. It's just 8K worth of image, but it's everywhere around you. Now what I mean by that is if you were snorkeling and you held this thing out in front of you, so the camera itself is a meter out in front of you and you're just snorkeling, you're just, you know, paddling through the water, or you're literally on the surface floating and looking down, you could push this thing a meter and a half down into the ocean. And after the fact, when you get back, you could sit on your computer or your phone and you could take, uh, so you've got this circular video of the whole world around you, right? And you can then go, right, I want a widescreen video to share with my family on a, on a TV, or I want a vertical video to share on Instagram, right? And then you choose which part of that video that you're going to share. So for example, now just picture this again. You're floating on the surface of the ocean, looking down, breathing through your snorkel, looking through your goggles. You can see the world below you, the ocean below you. You've got this camera 2.5 meters below you. You could choose to show a video of you just looking down. It'll be a silhouette because obviously the sun would be out. It'd be a silhouette of you. But what a cool photo or video.

[00:32:20] John: That's nice.

[00:32:20] Trevor Long: But you could then go, hang on a minute. There's a turtle or a stingray that floats past. But here's where it gets amazing. You don't move the camera while you're filming. You just hold it still. You don't move the camera at all because everything you're seeing is being filmed. But afterwards on your computer, you go, there's a stingray there, and you just— mate, this thing has AI. You just circle the stingray and it will follow that stingray around the water for as long as you want that video to be.

[00:32:48] John: Oh wow.

[00:32:49] Trevor Long: So I'll give you the example. I gave this to my brother-in-law who runs a whale watching boat up at Hervey Bay, and he put it on a, like, a 2-meter pole above the boat. So he's just, you know, scooting through the ocean, and then he, then he floats out there for 20 minutes. And this video is just 20 minutes long recording, and then for 30 seconds of this 20-minute video, there's a whale that pops up and sprays into the air, right? Yes. And what I was able to do was zoom in on that whale and show the whale in that moment instead of just this whole wide expanse view of his boat and the ocean and the sky. I'm just looking at the whale. And that's the video they shared on social media. Oh, that's amazing. So mate, you will lose your mind down a rabbit hole when you go on YouTube and look at Insta360 videos.

[00:33:36] John: Insta360 videos.

[00:33:36] Trevor Long: Because you won't— mate, I did a video. Geez, where did I post it? I don't know if I put it on the YouTube channel or whether it's just on— are you on social media? What do you use, TikTok or Instagram?

[00:33:46] John: Um, both actually.

[00:33:47] Trevor Long: Yeah, so you might need to, you might need to scroll is what I'm saying. But if you on TikTok, I'm just going to search Trevor Long 360 Mercedes. Okay, I had this Mercedes-Benz. Yep, there it is. So I had a Mercedes-Benz G-Wagon, which is just the wildest car in the world, right? But I'm holding this camera. This was actually on a DJI 360 camera, which is also another product you could choose, but the Insta360 is brand new. So I'm— imagine this again— I'm holding this camera out the window of the car, but in this video that I've edited after the fact, you can see down on the car and you can see me. You can't even see the pole that I'm holding, you can just see my hand. It's weird but unbelievable.

[00:34:37] John: Sounds good.

[00:34:38] Trevor Long: So, mate, I reckon, because think Northern Lights, you could be just standing there. And you know what? Here's what I love about it. Just hit record. 20 minutes of recording or something like that. Just hit record and then just enjoy the day. Use your phone to take some photos of the Northern Lights, but then just record the whole thing up on a pole standing next to you. And then when you get back to your computer, you can go, I want to capture that bit. I want to capture this bit. I remember put my arm around my wife or whatever. You can choose what you edit after the fact because you recorded everything. Excellent.

[00:35:10] John: So if I can just jump in for a very poor analogy, but it's a bit like a panorama video equivalent on a phone.

[00:35:17] Andrew: Yes.

[00:35:17] John: So you take a panorama photo and then you can sort of chop out the bit you want. This is actually a video where you chop out the section.

[00:35:24] Trevor Long: 360 degrees looking. So, mate, a silly example. I'm at the— I'm at my son's baseball game. I'm standing on the sideline and I'm videoing. I'm using a 360 because I'm lazy. I don't want to and actually point a camera at him, right? He runs from third base to home. So I capture that moment of him running along there, but I didn't move the camera. But after the event, I can capture that moment. But you know what else happened? A plane flew over the top and it was some special plane that I love. It's filming the sky as well. Oh, wow. Right? So it's filming everything around you. And so it's, so, and I get back to that moment of you scuba diving.

[00:36:01] John: Yep.

[00:36:02] Trevor Long: That, I don't know, I don't know who you're going with, but that moment that someone swims up next to you and, you know, pats you on the shoulder and tells you to look over over there, you could actually capture that moment in the video and then pan the video to that thing they were pointing at.

[00:36:15] John: Excellent.

[00:36:16] Trevor Long: Which might be the stingray. Mate, it's phenomenal and an unbelievable investment. But again, muck around with it for a month before you go. Yeah, yeah.

[00:36:26] John: We're not off until I think it's the middle of November, so I've got plenty of time to go and get that now. And I'm just assuming JB's one of those places.

[00:36:33] Trevor Long: Mate, JB's got them.

[00:36:34] Andrew: Yeah.

[00:36:35] Trevor Long: Look, if you can stump up for— I think they call it a Creator Bundle— have a longer pole in it, have all the little extras, you know, it won't cost you crazy more money, but it'll be well worth it. And dude, I just— when you, when you do this, you'll look back on that Hero 3 and think, what were we even thinking?

[00:36:53] John: Now, appreciate it, Trevor, it's great advice. And, uh, appreciate it. $1,000, yeah, getting the extra for the bundle's nothing.

[00:36:58] Trevor Long: So yeah, you may as well. And I genuinely think that over though, just those two trips, it'll pay for Excellent.

[00:37:04] John: Thank you so much, Trevor. Appreciate it and love the podcast, mate.

[00:37:06] Trevor Long: No worries at all, mate. I appreciate it. Thanks, buddy.

[00:37:08] John: Thanks a lot. See you, mate.

[00:37:09] Trevor Long: Cheers. Um, yeah, look, I'm, I'm loving that Insta360. It's a fantastic camera. Um, there's plenty of 360s on the market. As I said, uh, GoPros still have one. I think DJI have their Osmo 360. There's plenty. Um, Insta would be probably the, the leader in this space. Their software is awesome. For editing after the fact. But have a look at those videos I posted, uh, on, on socials. Very cool way to demonstrate. I did one the other day just with the Insta360, just walking up the stairs in my office. Um, yeah, have a look at that and you'll understand a little bit more exactly what we mean by how it works.

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Glenn — Portable monitors for the caravan

[00:38:06] Glenn: G'day, Trev. How are you, mate?

[00:38:07] Trevor Long: Good, buddy. What can we help you with?

[00:38:09] Glenn: Looking at portable monitors for my wife for when we take the caravan away or she goes and stays with our daughter. And there's about 500 on the market now. I'm very confused. There's triple displays, double displays. Anyway, just hoping for some sort of, I don't know, set, make sense out of it for me.

[00:38:27] Trevor Long: She's working off a laptop?

[00:38:30] Glenn: Yes.

[00:38:30] Trevor Long: Mac or PC?

[00:38:32] Glenn: Uh, PC.

[00:38:33] Trevor Long: Okay. And what, I mean, does she, she ask for this or are you trying to tell her how to work?

[00:38:38] Glenn: I'm trying to be helpful. She's, she has her monitors set up. She has a double monitor with her laptop now. And she obviously needs that for her.

[00:38:48] Trevor Long: So when she's at home, she has a double monitor on the desk, is that what you're saying? Her work from home setup?

[00:38:53] Glenn: Yes. But when she goes out in the caravan or when she takes off to see our daughter in the middle of whoop whoop, she needs to have a few monitors.

[00:39:01] Trevor Long: Yeah, fair enough. Does she really need a few or she just need that extra one?

[00:39:04] Glenn: Like, she runs 2 monitors plus a laptop all the time.

[00:39:10] Trevor Long: Really?

[00:39:11] Glenn: Right. Yeah.

[00:39:12] Trevor Long: So it gets a little— it's a touch more complicated because, I mean, I probably wouldn't— you know, the espresso displays are the most beautiful, they're easy to use, they're high quality. It's just one cable in, pump it out. I can't speak to exactly whether or not the laptop she's got would pump out two displays if you plug two of a single display style in. So like, I've got it, mate. I've got one that was at Aldi. So it's the, what is it, Born, you know, their tech brand. Yeah, it's amazing. So my first point is it really doesn't matter, they're all good. It's more about like how picky is she going to be about things like brightness or quality and stuff like that. I think in most cases you end up with, you know, your laptop's your primary screen, that's the bright awesome screen, and the other ones are there because you're monitoring whether it's emails or whatever on one and, you know, certain other things on the other, you know, reading from a document on the other. It's it's not actually game changer to have, you know, a little bit less brightness on one or whatever. But the one I did play with, and it looks cumbersome, it's— it honestly, it looked ugly, but it was so practical. Was— I got it from Kogan, and it was a dual screen. It had— it flipped over, it's like clipped over the top of the laptop, and then two screens folded out either side. Okay. And mate, so they sat across the laptop. Like, it was— it was— they weren't on the desk, so they didn't take up essentially desk space or stands and things. They came off the side of the bloody laptop, and they worked really well. They— well, that's what they were looking at. They were not high quality. No, they were not anything amazing. Like, even to the point where I don't think their refresh rate was brilliant, so I wouldn't stream Netflix on them. Like, if that was one of the things you were doing on a Window, not a great idea. Okay, but for Essentially for practicality of access to things like document, email, etc. Super cool. It just, they're just a little, little clumsy, cumbersome. They're not the kind of thing I'd want to, you know, show off at the airport lounge, but in my caravan, bloody awesome.

[00:41:16] Glenn: Like, yeah, she's not picky. I mean, she married me, so it doesn't matter about looks.

[00:41:21] Trevor Long: There's a lot that can be said for that, obviously, Glenn.

[00:41:23] Glenn: Yeah, true that.

[00:41:24] Trevor Long: Yes.

[00:41:25] Glenn: But yeah, no, well, that sounds all right.

[00:41:27] Trevor Long: Yeah, I would, I would go I'd look at what Kogan has. That was the one I tested. And I just remember needing to install software for it. And I think I also needed two cords, like one that would power it. So it took power, like on the back it had three or two or three USB connections. One was, you know, plugged into a wall and the other was plugged into the laptop. So with an espresso display or even Laser has just simple displays, they're just one USB cord from your computer to your screen and it's done. It's the video and the power. But when you have multiple screens, they need power and then the other cable just does the essentially the data video connection.

[00:42:10] Glenn: Yeah, right.

[00:42:11] Trevor Long: Yeah, certainly.

[00:42:14] Glenn: Okay, no worries. Is Aura Display popping up?

[00:42:18] Trevor Long: Aura?

[00:42:19] Glenn: Yeah, A-U-R-A.

[00:42:22] Trevor Long: Aura Display. That sounds like a brand that Kogan would do then when they were ripping off the Aura rings. Uh, I'm looking at it now, it does look nice. Like, yeah, I would say it's a better looking unit than the Kogan. Um, does it come with that weird stand? My God, wow, the triple arrow display!

[00:42:42] Glenn: That's the one, yeah.

[00:42:43] Trevor Long: Holy hell, look at that thing, that looks epic! I mean, if size matters, which it clearly doesn't. Um, too soon, too soon. Uh, yeah, so I'm looking at their, at their, their range just quickly online, and they've got one called the Dual Play Glen Gen 3, Dual Play or Triple Go. They, they look a little bit more like the Kogan one. They've got this kind of bulk to the, to the frame around the, the screen. But I think what's happened with this company is they've realized they needed some I don't know, slicker looking things like that. Okay, the one in their back to school sale photo, which is insane because who's going back to school? But anyway, it's obviously a US company, you know. Also, these US prices, my goodness. I don't know, um, they've got a good range. I like it, but I'd want— I mean, that triple is insane.

[00:43:37] Glenn: Yeah, I love the look of that.

[00:43:39] Trevor Long: Does it come down to it? It looks like it's quite high. It doesn't look like the stand allows you to manipulate how high it is. No, it does. It's got little, little, little feet that hold up the stand. No, it will, dude.

[00:43:55] Glenn: I'd be—

[00:43:56] Trevor Long: mate, I think she'll love that. Are you gonna— you're gonna just randomly do this, or is this Christmas present stuff? How are you gonna hold it?

[00:44:02] Glenn: I'll just give it to her.

[00:44:04] Trevor Long: You're just so generous.

[00:44:06] Glenn: She earns more than me, so, um, she's paying for it.

[00:44:09] Trevor Long: Oh, okay, right. Just dip into the joint bank account and she'll wonder where the $1,000 went and you'll be like, well, hello.

[00:44:16] Glenn: Yeah, absolutely, mate.

[00:44:18] Trevor Long: Looks good. I think that is pretty much the equivalent of the Kogan, but it is going to replicate her workplace in the caravan. And I would just want to do a little bit of research into how that stand, how easily that stand folds down so that it's not, you know, caravan's a small space, right? So you don't want to have to you know, have that thing on the desk or on the bench all the time, I would have thought.

[00:44:39] Glenn: Yeah, cool.

[00:44:41] Trevor Long: All right, mate, good luck.

[00:44:42] Glenn: Excellent, thank you for your help.

[00:44:43] Trevor Long: Good luck spending that money and hoping she likes it. You're a brave man.

[00:44:48] Glenn: No worries, thanks, mate.

[00:44:50] Trevor Long: All right, buddy, cheers.

[00:44:51] Glenn: See ya, bye.

[00:44:51] Trevor Long: Thanks, mate, no worries at all. There, Glenn, that's one of our moderators on the EFTM Man Cave with a cracking little option there. Aura, A-U-R-A, the Triple Aero Pro Max. You know, not cheap. So 3 monitors on a stand that sits higher than your laptop, at its cheapest, about $779 for 14-inch versions. 3 15-inch monitors are $850. And are these 3 18.5 inches for $992? Pretty good value. I am assuming that's Australian prices. Yes, it is. Those are Australian prices. There you go. All right, let me know if you've got any experience with that. Would love to hear more.

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