In news this afternoon Optus has been hacked, so we’ve updated this episode with that news and a warning for customers.

Plus, Trev and Stephen have been using the iPhone now for a while, so what are the real world thoughts who is the market and how does it compare. Notably, are we comparing it to the wrong phones?
Windows 11 gets a decent upgrade, the blokes talk you through it while Trev then sits around a $400 fire pit.
Stephen invests in a turntable for the classic music sound, and some great streaming coming to round out the year.
Trev is a Technology Commentator, Dad, Speaker and Rev Head.
He produces and hosts several popular podcasts, EFTM, Two Blokes Talking Tech, Two Blokes Talking Electric Cars, The Best Movies You’ve Never Seen, and the Private Feed. He is the resident tech expert for Triple M on radio across Australia, and is the resident Tech Expert on Channel 9’s Today Show and appears regularly on 9 News, A Current Affair and Sky News Early Edition.
Father of three, he is often found in his Man Cave.















